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 Anonymous posted on Tuesday, October 03, 2000 - 09:09 pm
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I had the chance to watch an advanced screening today and was a little surprised by the language from an IMAX film. I'm sure it was bound to happen...wow!
Lines like (from A Bug's Life) "I don't drink anything from another animals anus at anytime" or "bitchin' at the world today". So much for family viewing. Overall it was a fairly good film, however the Simpsons scenes had 'ghosting' images appear now and then. |
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| Anonymous posted on Wednesday, October 04, 2000 - 09:24 am
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| Those lines have been replaced with more acceptable lines for family audiences. |
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| Anonymous posted on Wednesday, October 04, 2000 - 10:32 am
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| That scene is from "Antz." |
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| Anonymous posted on Wednesday, October 04, 2000 - 10:32 am
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| That scene is from "Antz." |
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| Anonymous posted on Wednesday, October 04, 2000 - 11:25 am
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| Imax needs to just let it be. Cyberworld may be considered a family-friendly film, but so is Antz. It was a shock to hear those words simply because it was in an Imax film, but on the inside I was squirming with delight with the idea that Imax is growing up! |
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| Anonymous posted on Wednesday, October 04, 2000 - 11:40 am
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Hey there, keep yer 'squirming' to yourself. (g)
If I recall the 3-D Simpsons segment correctly, Homer says "crap" with reverb as he plunges in the black hole. (that's in the episode, I don't recall if they included that in Cyberworld)
As long as they keep the bad language outta the films they show to schools, I don't think they'll get too many complaints. 'Cyberworld' is hardly an educational film, it's more like a promotional tool. I wish that the Imax powers-that-be would let someone other than marketing executives write and produce these things. I haven't yet seen any large-format 3-D films that I'd pay money for. |
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| Hmm....the "ghosting" comment in the first post has me mystified...that must be a projection issue, unless the person posting saw the film in a non-E3D theatre. Using just polarized glasses and not E3D will result in some ghosting. If this is the case, there was ghosting throughout, not just in the Simpson scene. That scene was probably the easiest to spot it in. (nice dark background) |
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| Lori Fortuna posted on Wednesday, October 04, 2000 - 06:35 pm
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| I screened the movie in my SR theatre and the ghosting for the Simpson's part of the film was really bad. The rest of the film was fine, but even holding my head completely still and looking straight on, it ghosted horribly in the Simpsons. Does anyone know why the ghosting is so bad on this part of the film? |
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Ghosting isn't a print problem...it's a projection issue (though not limited to the projector itself). As well, it does not vary from print-to-print or shot-to-shot. Remember, the two images are completely isolated before projection occurs. For our eyes, it's all in how they are fused together. You are more inclined to notice ghosting whenever a light image (Homer Simpson) is contrasted by a dark or black background (infinite, boundless cyberspace). Reasons that ghosting happens in some theaters more than others are many: Seats situated outside of the 35 degree line from the center axis of the screen; Newer silver paint formulations reflect polarized light with less (off axis) diffusion than the older ones (Dirty screens have the same negative effect); Poor lamp alignment or hot current levels; "Burnt" or cracked polarizers; Then there's E3D vs P3D, etc, etc...
Ghosting is no more a print problem than say...a bad script (:P) or an audience member wreacking havoc with a laser pointer. |
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| Lori Fortuna posted on Wednesday, October 04, 2000 - 09:11 pm
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| So what can I do to help alleviate the ghosting issue in Cyberworld? The rest of the print is fine, just Simpsons are not, and I have never had a problem with ghosting like this before. My polarizers are not damaged, my lamps are aligned to Imax standards, and even sitting in the very center of the theater does not make the ghosting any better. Since it is an SR theater, I do not have E3D headsets or the option of shutters. But as I said before, ghosting this bad has never been a problem, and neither was it this bad a problem in the Simpsons part of the Cyberworld 3D trailer. Some of the people who it has been screened for have complained of headaches or feeling sick after seeing the Simpsons part. I just want to be able to put on the best quality show possible for the people, so if there are suggestions on how I can make things any better, then please suggest. |
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The lines from "Antz" haven't been replaced in our print of 'Cyberworld' and according to IMAX, the 'ghosting' is visible in the 2D print as well!! Go figure. Lori, we have the 3D trailer too, and your right it doesn't show there, just in certain scenes. Apparently its right on the print. It does happen on the GT units too, just not as bad. I haven't had the chance to do a close-up look of that part of the print yet, and I'm not sure I'll get the chance. Luckily it doesn't last to long. I know its a pain to your guests, but do a warning to your guests before the show stating 'if you feel dizzy or are getting a headache during the show, just close your eyes for a second and it will clear up'
I'm not sure if it really works in a flat screen environment, it does on an IMAX dome screen!! By the time your guests have opened their eyes again, the scene has changed!! |
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| Hi Lori, I don't know what to tell ya, but call Imax...this is something that they take very seriously. Also, since the Simpsons segment is at the end of the film, do you think it's possible that the sickness that some have shown could have been a cumulative effect? Hey Bill...Imax sent letters out to all Cyberworld exhibitors stating that they will soon be sending a remixed soundtrack, in which those words are replaced ("Anus", with "Caboose" & "Bitching", with "Talking"...Hmm, I wonder if they were able to get Woody & Sly back into the studio). I have not recieved mine yet either, but the letter assured that it would be sent soon. If you are indeed getting double images within a 2D print of Cyberworld (or any 2D print for that matter) then someone REALLY MESSED UP...BIG TIME! You need to shed some light on this fact to the folks at DKP and Imax as soon as possible so it can be corrected. Good Luck! |
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The ghosting maybe artifacts from the CGI rendering
We saw ghosting when we screened the right eye when they were mixing the track |
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